Listen to Elise Margow and Pat Panetta talk Trump and Zelensky negotiation


How should Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky successfully negotiate?

United States President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky had a very heated public discussion in the White House earlier this week. Was there a better way both leaders could have handled this discussion?


Elise Margow, negotiation expert, founder and CEO of Confidentially Speaking, spoke to Pat Panetta about some tips and strategies that she thinks that the two world leaders could use going forward.

March 2025


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