Listen to Elise Margow and Pat Panetta talk Trump/Zelensky negotiation scorecard

Written By Elise Margow

The stakes are extremely high when trying to negotiate a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. What did Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky do differently this time? What did they learn and what did they change after their previous train-wreck of a meeting?


Elise Margow, negotiation expert, founder and CEO of Confidentially Speaking, speaks to Pat Panetta about the latest Trump / Zelenski scorecard.

August 2025

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